an hundred and fifty and three:
and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken.
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For centuries, people have wondered why the Bible records the 153 fish caught by the disciples when Jesus told them to throw their nets on the opposite side of the boat in John 21:4-12. There are so many views, ideas and theories on why it was 153, but we will discuss a view which is impossible to prove wrong and out right confirms that through the holy spirit in the flesh, God wrote the Bible that we have today known as the Authorised King James Version 1611.
''fish'' + ''men'' = 153 mentions in the Gospels
Lets work our way through the disciples in the boat and look at the Pure Mentions of their names in the Gospel's. Complete end result and conclusion can only be that this is a God given miracle sealed in his book.
Peter('s) the only one with possessive mentions ''Peter's'' where peter is mentioned 97 times.
Thomas is mentioned 11 times in the Gospels.
Nathanael is mentioned 6 times in the Gospels.
James is mentioned 19 times.
John is mentioned 20 times.
There were two more Disciples in the boat but they are not identified in the Bible.
Lets add that all together and ponder on Gods Word and his endless perfection shown in the true word of God. First we ponder, but when done you will be looking deep into the KJB 1611 and realising its the book to have. All others are corrupted versions.... ALL
Peter: 97 + Thomas: 11 + Nathanael: 6 + James: 19 + John: 20 = 153
The first three names mentioned in John 21:2 are Peter, Simon & Thomas. In the Gospels they are mentioned 153 times.
John 21:2,3
There were together Simon Peter, and Thomas called Didymus, and Nathanael of Cana in Galilee, and the sons of Zebedee, and two other of his disciples.
Simon Peter saith unto them, I go a fishing. They say unto him, We also go with thee. They went forth, and entered into a ship immediately; and that night they caught nothing.
John 21:5,6
Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No.
And he said unto them, Cast the net on the right side of the ship, and ye shall find. They cast therefore, and now they were not able to draw it for the multitude of fishes.
John 21:10,11
Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now caught.
Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken.
In the Gospels, James John and Simon, are mentioned in 153 verses. Luke 5:10 actually mentions those three together when Jesus tells Peter he will catch men.
Raw V's Pure mentions. Raw is how many times the word appears, and pure is when the word appears when anti-mentions are filtered out, when using the pure bible search tool.
Luke 5:10:
And so was also James, and John, the sons of Zebedee, which were partners with Simon. And Jesus said unto Simon, Fear not; from henceforth thou shalt catch men.
''fish'' + ''men'' = 153 mentions in the Gospels
''fish'' + ''men'' = 351 mentions from Gospels to Paul's epistles
(Mathew - Hebrews) , 153351 Mirrored
''Jesus Christ('s)'' Mentioned 153 times in the Epistles of Paul + Peter
In the Bible (in singular form not possessive)
Paul is mentioned in 153 verses
Acts 13:47:
For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.
Galatians 2:7:
But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
Galatians 2:7 = 153rd Mention of 'Peter' in the Bible
All those in high places doing the spiritual wickedness that have their own symbolism and numerology, will never match Gods numerology for he does all things well. As for the wicked, God did it long before they were conceived and did it to a unparalleled depth. He also made the earth! are they not just playing with his Lego.!!!
In order to fully understand the following wonders of Gods word, we need to look at the number 7. The number 7 is rich throughout the Bibles Numerology and we cover this in our Course Bible Numerology.
Here is a sample of that Course Part1 - Part2 with the introduction to 7's and purified 7 times in the Bible.
The Gospels begin with the book of the generations of Jesus Christ, the son of David and of Abraham, Mathew 1:1. Jesus teaches his disciples the Gospel which in-turn began his Church bringing believers into the body of Christ, through the beginning of the works of his disciples spreading the word and testimony of Jesus Christ.
''David'' + ''Abraham''
Mentioned in (153 X 7) Verses
The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ Mark 1:1
''Gospel'' + ''Jesus''
(153 X 7) Mentions
The Gospel by which we are saved begins on 1 Corinthians 15:3
I Corinthians 15:3,4
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Fishers of Men | ||
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Fisher of the Jews ''Peter'' in singular form not counting possessive |
King James 1611 authorised | Fisher of the Gentiles ''Paul'' in singular form not counting possessive |
Luke 5:10: | No other persons are mentioned in the Bible in exactly 153 verses | Acts 13:47: For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth. |
Peter : 153rd Mention Galatians 2:7: | Paul : 153rd Mention Titus 1:1: |
The Gospel of Jesus Christ
Mathew 1:1
The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
''David + ''Abraham''
153 X 7 Mentions (Verses)
Mathews Gospel contains exactly 153 verses
The beginning of the Gospel of Jesus Christ (Son of God)
''Gospel'' + ''Jesus''
153 X 7 Mentions
Last Chapter of Numbers | + 777 | Chapter |
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This was taken from our course study 600 threescore and Six. If you want deeper understanding of the Bibles true authenticity and perfection, this is a great course to study.
When Jesus walked the earth he gave many prophecies and performed many miracles but did you know when Jesus was taken into the wilderness to be tempted by Satan, that Jesus used scripture from Deuteronomy on each temptation. By taking the scripture verses used by Jesus on each account we can use accurate numerology to show how the verse numbers, and, one anomaly from the battle show the number 666 was used by Jesus to brand Satan.
Jesus knew the beginning from the end and knew the 'Word' as it would be, in the Bible in our time. You will also see that through this evidence Jesus knew about verse divisions before their time.
To start things of we will discuss how in scripture Jesus branded Satan with 666 using scripture from the Bible.
"In the famous confrontation between Jesus and the Devil, detailed in Matthew 4 and Luke 4, there is a peculiar anomaly that stands out: Jesus only quotes from the book of Deuteronomy. The devil delivers 3 temptations, and Jesus quotes scripture from Deuteronomy all three times.
With Deuteronomy, you realise the Lord was putting a 666 on the devil with verse divisions that didn’t even exist at the time of Christ."
Brandon Peterson
First, Jesus quotes the 248th verse of Deuteronomy.
Deuteronomy 8:3.
“It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God'”
Second, Jesus quotes the 210th verse of Deuteronomy.
Deuteronomy 6:16:
Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah.
Last, Jesus quotes the 207th verse of Deuteronomy, with a truth drawn from 208th verse.
Deuteronomy 6:13
Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name
He doesn’t quote the 208th verse, but he does draw truth directly from it and applies it to the 207th verse. This is how we get the (+1) in the total sum of verse positions.
Deuteronomy 6:14
Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you;
If we add it all together, we get a total of
248 + 210 + 207+(1) = 666.
Taken from Chapter six 3 times (ch6 ch6 ch6)
Three names in the bible marked with 666, Solomon, Adonikam and Jehoiakim, and now Satan, but it gets more amazing as we dig deeper.
"The King James Bible possesses a multi-dimensional pattern that spans the entire Bible (Old and New Testaments), counting all mentions of their names along with the number itself. This is unfathomably beyond coincidence, especially with the KJB’s unique “Threescore” vs “Sixty” nuance which perfectly balances these counts."
Brandon Peterson..... TruthIsChrist
There are exactly 31102 verses in the KJ Bible 1611.
Which is also 1551 + 1551 = 31102
1551 was the year Bible verse numbers
were first used in a printed Bible
1551 verses inwards from the start of Bible is
PSALMS 103:1
1551 verses backwards from the end of Bible is
PSALMS 103:2
Middle verses of the Bible are PSALMS 103:1,2
103:1,2 = 31102 (verses in the Bible)
Psalms 103:1
Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name.
In the book of Psalms, this is the 1611th verse
The King James Bible was first printed in the year 1611
Visit the Truthischrist.com website and make it part of your research and learning. Most of the numbers in this course were taken from a video 'Thy Word Be Verified' which was very well put together.
Allot of scripture ties in to numerology and more is being found all the time.
Isiah 59:19
So shall they fear the name of the Lord from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun.
When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him.
Did giants walk the earth?
Coming Soon! : We have all seen the photo's of people from the 18th to the 21st century who were from 7 to 11 feet tall or more. We know from scripture things were tough in Noah's time, and if you study the book of Enoch you will read of giants in those times of great heights, mighty men seen on old structures and statues recorded by man in stone.
In the Hebrew Bible, there are three interconnected passages referencing the nephilim. Two of them come from the Pentateuch. The first occurrence is in Genesis 6:1–4, immediately before the account of Noah's Ark. Genesis 6:4 reads as follows:
The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.[9]
Where the Jewish Publication Society's translation simply transliterates the Hebrew nephilim as "Nephilim",[9] the King James Version translates the term as "giants".[30]
The nature of the Nephilim is complicated by the ambiguity of Genesis 6:4, which leaves it unclear whether they are the "sons of God" or their offspring who are the "mighty men of old, men of renown". Richard Hess takes it to mean that the Nephilim are the offspring,[31] as does P.W. Coxon.[32]
The second is Numbers 13:32–33, where ten of the Twelve Spies describe the Anakites (a Rephaite tribe) as descendants of the Nephilim:
And there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, who come of the Nephilim; and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.[9]
Outside the Pentateuch there is one more passage indirectly referencing nephilim and this is Ezekiel 32:17–32. Of special significance is Ezekiel 32:27, which contains a phrase of disputed meaning. With the traditional vowels added to the text in the medieval period, the phrase is read gibborim nophlim ("'fallen warriors" or "fallen Gibborim"), although some scholars read the phrase as gibborim nephilim ("Nephilim warriors" or "warriors, Nephilim").[33][11][32] According to R.S. Hendel, the phrase should be interpreted as "warriors, the Nephilim" in a reference to Genesis 6:4. The verse as understood by Hendel reads:
They lie with the warriors, the Nephilim of old, who descended to Sheol with their weapons of war. They placed their swords beneath their heads and their shields upon their bones, for the terror of the warriors was upon the land of the living.[11]
B.R. Doak, on the other hand, proposes to read the term as the Hebrew verb "fallen" (נופלים nophlim), not a use of the specific term "Nephilim", but still according to Doak a clear reference to the Nephilim tradition as found in Genesis.[12](p 622)
There are many views out there on what was around in Noah's time, and most of the bones found over there years are not given much attention. The view towards giants in old times is a subject under much criticism and you will often see twisted theories brought out from corrupted scripture along with deliberate miss-interpretation.
With some careful study of scripture using the authorised King James Bible 1611 we can find a lot of evidence of giants. IF you don't think the Bible can be good evidence you should look at our course on BIble Numerology which out right proves the authenticity of the English KJ1611 Bible.
Genesis 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men,
and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth,
and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Many archaeologists have found proof of giants, and most of the time it is played down into the background, not making it into mainstream media. After all if this became common knowledge how could S.t.n defame the Bible and its teachings. How could he maintain his lie of things from 60 million years ago? All giant skeletons and bone are before the flood and after within our 6000 year timeline for mankind.
Numbers 13:32,33
And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel,
saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof;
and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature.
And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants:
and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.
Deuteronomy 2:10,11
The Emims dwelt therein in times past, a people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims;
Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites call them Emims.
Deuteronomy 2:20,21
That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;
A people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; but the Lord destroyed them before them; and they succeeded them, and dwelt in their stead:
see also: Deuteronomy 3:11 - Deuteronomy 3:13 - Joshua 12:4 - Joshua 13:12 - Joshua 15:8 - Joshua 17:15 - Joshua 18:16.
All these theories off giant's and big animal bones found being over 10'000 years old are lies. The petrifying of flesh and bone can happen in around 250-300 years. Evidence of items and flesh wearing items from the late 18th century have been found and documented.
Scripture is very clear in explaining how giants walked the earth in Noah's time. Then the floods came by God and all was squashed down in thick layers of mud in a matter of minutes. In scripture it states how the children of the fallen (watchers) known as the Nephilim became mighty men and giants, but giants also applied to most life on earth before the flood.
Gen 6:17
And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh,
wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.
Gen 7:6
And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth.
We hear many of the opposition say God is evil because he killed everyone. The TRUTH is he did it because there was no good (except Noah's family) left on the earth but only evil in the minds of all men. The world could not carry on like that so it was reset for the sake of mankind not his.
Gen 6:5
And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
The world is very evil today, but can you imagine how bad it would be now, if God let things continue so that the world was just a pure evil place. Well, sadly it has become just that! Again! only this time the chaff from the wheat will be sorted, and the earth will be cleansed with fire. (Quick explanation, there's more to it).
So after the flood had gone, and Noah's family tree grew, filling the earth with souls again, those that perished under the remaining mud shifts and land falls petrified into stone over time leaving the earth filled with their remains, along with history written in stone.
This big boy should thank God he/she was given the mercy of being taken before that huge snake took a bite. You can clearly see the snakes skeleton rapped around the body, up to the neck in a choke hold perhaps. It looks like the giant was struggling on the ground to get free or knocked to the ground by a mud flood from the great flood.
Many animals on the earth in Noah's time were giants, from sea animals to land animals many have been found petrified in stone. The is just to much of this all over the earth for it to be a freak effect from erosion or earths movements over time.
Study the following slides for yourself. Its very hard to search the internet for pictures articles and books on this subject because its very existence gives proof and authority in Bible scripture. That is something the prince of this world wants kept hidden from as many as possible.
Notes;
Noahs ark, all big: trees animals people etc.
Why this question is so important
This is perhaps the single most important question that is asked concerning deliverance. The Bible is filled with scripture on unclean spirits being cast out. Are they called Demons? No, that's not in the Bible, but Unclean spirits is and that's how we refer to them. There are not many churches in today's world that have deliverance ministry, and if you understood the extent of damage they can do to a life or relationship you would be a lot more serious about, dare I say it,, getting advice and knowledge on the subject and looking at yourself.
One of Satan’s best spread lies, is that Christians cant get unclean spirits in their body (Temple of the Holy spirit). Why? to keep unclean spirits from being cast out.
If Christians could not have unclean spirits, then what is the point in driving them out, if all we had to do was get the person saved and their unclean spirits would leave on their own? That would leave us casting unclean spirits out of people who refuse to accept Jesus as their lord and saviour! It is my experience that those who claim that Christians cannot have unclean spirits are not even casting them out of non-believers.
If the problem, such as a person having a spirit of infirmity causing disease in their body, is not demonic because they are a Christian and Christians cannot have unclean spirits, then the problem has to be caused by something else, and the real issue that needs to be dealt with is completely overlooked! This is why such a belief among Christians is deadly… literally! Numerous healing that God wants to manifest, do not happen because the spirits behind those particularity infirmities are being completely overlooked.
From www.greatbiblestudy.com
Matthew 10:1
And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
Matt 12:43-45
"When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none."
"Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished."
"Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation."
Deliverance is truly not for non-believers. Matthew 12:43-45 is very clear on this, and in truth more harm than good is done. The Bible tells of many times when Jesus Rebuked and cast out unclean spirits from those in torment. Not Demons,,, but unclean spirits. Jesus did this to those he knew where in the church with belief in him, and those who through the experience of the deliverance gained faith and belief in him, as Jesus knew the beginning from the end, (I and the farther are one).
Mark 1:23-25
And there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit; and he cried out,
Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.
And Jesus rebuked him, saying, "Hold thy peace, and come out of him."
Truth be known Non-believers should not have deliverance because until a person finds Jesus and a faith and belief in him, the unclean spirits have a right-of-passage to enter into a body when that person opens a doorway. How does a doorway happen?
Cursing, and repetitive sin like lusting after others or constantly coveting things. using satanic objects like Ouija board, spirit board, playing any games that have a demonic theme. If Sins are committed they can open a doorway for an unclean spirit to enter into the body and start its works against any chances of salvation.
Many Christians believe they have no unclean spirits in them, but sadly this is not true, as its not just about believing in Christ, it's about going through the process of a deliverance ministry and identifying doorways and the related sins and asking for forgiveness of those sins, in order to break the spiritual ties allowing unclean spirits to remain.
If a Christian has the unclean spirits in them, they are still saved, they don't loose salvation but they do have unnecessary torment and even illness and are more inclined to commit sinful acts or thoughts as they have to fight the subtle evil influence of Satan's unseen workers.
Mark 5:2-9
And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
8 For he said unto him, "Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit."
9 And he asked him, "What is thy name?" And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.
Romans 7:17-21
Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
How did Paul have evil in him, but be filled with the Holy Spirit? Because Paul, like us, was composed of three parts. He was spirit, in a physical body with a soul. A soul is different from the spirit. The spirit is the real you, which is united with the Holy Spirit if you are in Christ. Your soul is your mind, will and emotions, where the darkness can live and remain long after you’ve accepted Jesus and were washed from your sins. This is where unclean spirits can remain, along with your physical body.
Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
1 Thessalonians 5:23
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Your spirit is born again and made new when you accepted Jesus, but your mind, will, and emotions were not born again.
Consider this passage, and it is obvious that all the baggage does not leave a believer’s soul the moment they are born again… but something is made new and old things have passed away – that is because it is speaking of your spirit!
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
2 Corinthians 5:17
Was this intended for believers? Or non-believers?
When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick: That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.
Matthew 8:16-17
Here was Jesus demonstrating the benefits of the new covenant between God and His people, and in doing so, He was driving out demons and healing the sick. Now let me ask you this: Was Christ’s payment for our physical healing (by His stripes we are healed) for non-believers or believers? Believers of course! Then I believe this passage makes it very clear that deliverance (involving casting out demons) and our physical healing is a benefit meant for the believer!
Many think you have to be a lunatic in order to have unclean spirits, which is not true, and any studying of this subject in the Bible will make this very clear. Consider the man who was perfectly sane mentally, but could not speak nor see because he had an unclean spirit which hindered his speech:
Matthew 12:22
Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw.
Another example is the woman who was bound with a spirit of infirmity. She was clearly not a lunatic, but merely had a physical infirmity caused by an unclean spirit:
Luke 13:10-16
And he was teaching in one of the synagogues on the sabbath. And, behold, there was a woman which had a spirit of infirmity eighteen years, and was bowed together, and could in no wise lift up herself. And when Jesus saw her, he called her to him, and said unto her, Woman, thou art loosed from thine infirmity. And he laid his hands on her: and immediately she was made straight, and glorified God. And the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because that Jesus had healed on the sabbath day, and said unto the people, There are six days in which men ought to work: in them therefore come and be healed, and not on the sabbath day. The Lord then answered him, and said, Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his ass from the stall, and lead him away to watering? And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?
Nowadays, the word possessed infers ownership, such as our possessions, but in the NT Greek, we find an entirely different meaning. The phrase possessed with a devil translates back to the Greek word daimonizomai, which means to have a Devil or to be vexed (meaning tormented) by one. Devils (unclean spirits) do not own people, there is no scriptural evidence of such a thing – not even in the life of a non-believer!
If you look up the accounts in the Bible of Devil (unclean spirits) possession, we find people who either have unclean spirits or are being tormented by them. This can manifest in both the physical body or the soul (a person’s mind, will, and emotions).
Many say ''the deliverance ministry ended with Jesus’ ministry" This is not true, and we don’t have to read far into our Bibles to find this out. After Jesus rose again, He appeared to His disciples and gave them the great commission:
Mark 16:15-17
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
"They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."
If you read the book of Acts, you will find that the early church was also active in the ministry of deliverance, and there are few churches in our times that do this now.